Jan 6, 2018

Tall (really) Nike Sweat Pants - Hopeful, Stay Tuned

So, I decided to give it a try and test the waters again, this time with Nike. As a 6ft 4 relatively slim male, one of my biggest frustrations has been finding tall sweatpants. I found one pair from Land's End years ago, but don't see them any longer. They were more traditional sweatpants, and there are other Sites with taller traditional sweatpants, not made from some of the high-quality fabrics that are out there for the rest of the population. 

Stock online, why the heck not
They don't need to stock these tall (really) sizes in stores, I get that, takes up valuable shelf space for the masses of shorter people, but online, ONLINE, why the heck not? Its tradition and it sucks for us. I will not be deterred.

34-inch inseam is not tall for us
This morning I found some really nice training pants on the Nike Site and saw that they even had what they called "Tall" training pants. Now for anyone 6 ft 4 or taller, we appreciate that for most people 6ft even is considered tall and for those 6ft or a just a bit taller, a 34-inch inseam is likely just fine, but when you hit 6 ft 4, a 34-inch inseam looks like you are preparing for a flood. So for us, a 34-inch inseam is NOT tall.  

Left out of high-quality fabrics
Nike and UA have some great stuff, great and great looking fabrics. Tall folks can buy high-quality, high-tech, fashionable, great feeling, great looking shirts, and tops, but that is it, sadly, no pants. Why can't we get some good quality, high-tech material like everyone else? I will not be deterred. 

So I started my chat with Nike, below. And again, no fault to Allan, and he, in fact, he did a great job and I am hopeful that I will get a call. And if I do there could be some great news coming for all of you tall athletes, stay tuned, I will report next week. Please subscribe to be notified.

Nike representative Chat Transcript regarding Tall Nike Sweatpants / Training Pants. 

Jan 6th, 2017 

Allan: Hi, my name is Allan. How may I help you? 
Allan: Hello there, Greg. 
Greg: Hi. I am 6 ft. 4 and looking for some "tall" training pants. I see that you have "Tall", what is the inseam length please? 
Allan: I understand that you wanted to make sure the inseam size of our tall training pants. 
Allan: No worries, I can check this for you. 
Greg: Thanks! 
Allan: Your welcome. 
Allan: Checking on it, 
Allan: Thanks for waiting, Greg. 
Allan: May I know what size you are usually getting for the pants? 
Greg: 36-inch inseam. 
Allan: I see. 
Greg: 34 to 36-inch waist 
Greg: 35-inch inseam would be ok even. 
Allan: For the waist. 35-38 in is size L. 
Greg: That is good to know. So, M is 32 to 34 for waist size? 
Allan: Yes! 
Allan: For the inseam. 
35.5 = XXXL. 
35.25 = XXL
35 = XL 
Greg: And the inseam for tall? 
Allan: This is for tall inseam. 
35.5 = XXXL. 
35.25 = XXL
35 = XL 
Allan: What's good thing about Nike is that we have a great return policy wherein you can still use the item within 30 days and if it still doesn't meet your expectation, 
Allan: you can definitely return it back to us for any reason and we will give you a full refund for it. 
Greg: That might work. Nothing longer? I know that you guys outfit a whole lot of sports teams with tall people, basketball players 6 ft. 4 and a lot more, what do they wear? 
Allan: Yes. That is a custom made requested by players themselves. 
Allan: But for our stock products the largest will be XXXL 
Allan: and tall inseam is 35.5 
Greg: But I would think that you make "batches" of sweatpants for tall, relatively thin and athletic people. 
Allan: No worries, you can return the item just in case that it will fit you. 
Greg: If I have a waist size of 34, what is the tall inseam for that? 
Allan: That will be 34.5 Tall Inseam. 
Greg: I like these: https://www.nike.com/t/dri-fit-mens-training-pants-kgmMJm# 
Greg: But I need 36-inch inseam, maybe 35 or 35.5 would work 
Greg: Can I have some special made? 
Allan: Right now, our customization is only available at our shoes. 
Greg: But there are thousands of basketball players and athletes, even in high school that are tall and thin, what do we do? 
Allan: This is the next option that you can take. 
Allan: If you have a near Nike store to fit test the item. Please do. so that you can make sure about the size you need to take, 
Greg: Tens of thousands of fit, tall, relatively thin athletes that need 36 inseams 
Allan: Well for that. Most of them are getting the standard inseam that we have on the website. 
Allan: That is why I am requesting for you to try first the item if you are not sure about your size.
Greg: No other way? 
Allan: or our sizing. 
Greg: I know that I wear 36-inch inseam. 
Greg: And I know that I am 6 ft. 4. 
Greg: And that my waist size is 34 
Allan: but the sizing of Nike is different from what you expected. Correct? 
Greg: OK, I will check, thanks. 
Greg: Is there an outlet near me 
Greg: Area code 77095 
Allan: Please get the size M to make sure. 
Greg: And is there a way to verify that they have "Tall" M or L in stock? 
Allan: Can you provide me the style number of the pants that you are interested? 
Greg: https://www.nike.com/t/dri-fit-mens-training-pants-kgmMJm# 
Greg: Style: 889393-036 
Allan: Thanks. 
Allan: I can see here that this is the nearest. but I believe that this is still too far. 
Allan: North Park Center - #352 
8687 North Central Expressway 
Suite 618 
Dallas Texas 75225 
Greg: Nothing in Houston? 
Allan: Yes. 
Allan: I am sorry for this inconvenience. 
Greg: And it is still hard to believe that only more overweight tall people can get 35 or 35.5 inseams. 
Greg: Surely there is some way of getting what professional athletes get. 
Greg: Why can they get a proper size but a much, much, much larger population can't? 
Allan: I can suggest that please try first the size M tall so that you can get the tall inseam as well. 
Greg: I know that it is not your fault, but it makes so much sense to me that there is a HUGE untapped market out there that is being ignored. 
Greg: Like I said, I have a 36-inch inseam. 
Allan: No worries, Greg. I will make sure to get this as a feedback so that this will be taken care off. 
Allan: would there be anything else that I can help you with? 
Greg: That's it, thanks for passing on the feedback. One more thing. 
Allan: Alright go ahead. 
Greg: What if I wanted to purchase 200 pairs of 36-inch inseam, 34-inch waist style: 889393-036. Can I talk to someone about that? A special, large order. 
Greg: Or what is the minimum order for a large special order? 
Allan: I am checking on it., 
Allan: Please bear with me. 
Greg: Or can you give me a contact name. I would like to invest and resell because I know that i could resell them. 
Allan: Oh! I see. 
Allan: One moment, please. 
Allan: Let me verify. 
Greg: Thank you. 
Greg: Maybe there is someone else that I could contact? 
Allan: I am verifying this with my coach. 
Allan: Please bear with me. 
Allan: Alright. 
Allan: Thanks for waiting, Greg.
Allan: We verified that you will be contacted by one of our Nike associate for the bulk order that you will be requesting.
Allan: I will be needing your contact number and email address for this one. 
Greg: Thanks, very my email address provided then? 
Greg: When should I expect a contact? 
Allan: Please provide me your email and phone number. 
Greg: via my email I mean 
Allan: It will be 1-2 business days. 
Greg: xxx-xxx-xxxx 
Allan: Thank you. 
Greg: Thank you very, very much. 
Allan: would there be anything else that I can help you with? 
Greg: Have a great day. 
Allan: My utmost pleasure and thank you as well for your patience and understanding. 
Greg: That is all 
Allan: Thank you for chatting Nike.com. Have a great day. 

Oct 1, 2016

34x36 Levi Jeans - Wide variety available online in 34x36

So I went to Kohl's the other day looking for 34x36 jeans, and once again, a big fail. Saw so many great styles, it was sick that there was nothing 34x36.  Reminded me of why I created this blog. Occasionally I have a good experience at a store or online and I will post it here.

Today I went to the Levis Site and found a nice Selector Tool that narrows down searches for specific waist and inseam sizes for both jeans and other pants.

Levi's 34x36 Jeans Filter (up to 38 inseam)
Levi's 34x36 Pants Filter (up to 36 inseam)

Dec 10, 2014

Under Armour's Definition of Tall Comes up Short - No 34x36

Today, I crossed my fingers and took another look at Under Armour to see what they might have in a "tall" selection for men's pants, looking for something to accommodate my 34x36 pant size to match my 6 ft 4 190 lb frame.

Needless to say, I "came up short" in my quest for something that fits. Not giving up I went to the chat window option to engage an Under Armour employee. Not to pick on the person, I sympathize with her, she tried. The decision by Under Armour any many others to not address tall men, even tall non professional athletes continues to disappoint.  Below is our exchange which says it all.

December 10, 2014 - Chat Log with Under Armour Rep

Molly: Thank you for choosing Under Armour, my name is Molly. How may I help you? 
Greg (me): Do you have any tall sizes for pants? 
Molly: We do, here is a link: https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/search/mens?noindex&q=tall+pants 
Greg: Hmmm... only the last one on the bottom right says "Tall" is that it, just one option? 
Molly: No, all of them come in a tall they just may be sold out, I can check to see if we have any left if you provide a style number and color of what you like. 
Greg: https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/af-storm-pant/pid1249892-308. Am I missing something? No designation for tall there, unless you are 3XLT or XXLT. 
Greg: What if I am XLT or LGT? 
Greg: Tall, not Big AND Tall. 
Molly: It is just that most of them are sold out, what size do you need? 
Greg: I am a non-professional, tall, fit, athlete. 
Molly: What size do you want? 
Greg: Medium to Large waist, and Tall 
Molly: Ok, what style number do you like? 
Greg: The ones that are sold out are only Big AND Tall. 
Greg: https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/c1n-signature-ii-pant/pid1248405-025 
Molly: Thanks, Checking now. 
Greg: or https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/x-alt-woven-pant/pid1248509-016
Molly: We have 2 left in an LGT in 1248405 in black. In 1248405 we have one left in green in a MDT. 
Greg: Great, what is the inseam for "Tall" 
Greg: I have a 36 inch inseam 
Molly: 33'' for both. 
Greg: 33" is not really tall :-(  [Insert, I admit that this a unique perspective of anyone over about 6 ft 1 or 6 ft 2]
Molly: I am sorry about that. 
Greg: Surprised, thought that UA was athlete-friendly. 33 inch means you have to be no taller than 6 foot or pants look like waders.
Molly: I am sorry about that, I will pass your feedback along. 
Greg: Short basketball players only? Others, sorry about that? 
Molly: I will pass your feedback along. Hopefully we will offer taller pants in the future. 
Greg: OK, sorry, always find this frustrating. Athletes tall and fit not welcomed.
Molly: I am sorry, can I assist you with anything else? 
Greg: Nah, have a nice day and thanks for passing on the feedback. 
Molly: My pleasure. Thanks you too 
Greg: I was just hoping, dreaming. 
Molly: Ok, have a nice day!
Molly has disconnected. 

So here we have it, still, in the age of the internet when UA does not need to stock 34x36 sweat pants or 34x36 tactical pants at stores, we are happy to order them online, should not take all that much space in a large warehouse for crying out loud.

So a tall basketball player by Under Armour's own definition is about 6 ft 2.

Disclosure: I own stock in UA, love much of their stuff, shorts, tees, tanks, etc, but pants are a big let down.

Aug 10, 2014

My favorite 34x36 casual/dress pant from Land's End

Lately I have been reaching for one particular brand of Land's End pants most often. These pants are mid-weight. I like the fit more than most any pant that I own and I own three different colors.

They are called "Men's Pleat Front Comfort Waist No Iron Chino Pants". They have 34 waist x 36 inch inseam and you can find them HERE.

Nov 25, 2013

Zappos has a nice selection of long casual pants, including 36 inseam sweats

Looking to update this blog with some fresh links and landed on the Zappos site, includes a 36 inch inseam track pant in three color combinations, nice, HERE and in small to XL sizes.

The site also has a nice selection tool that make things easier. Go the pants section and enter your waist and inseam size (up to 38inch!) and they show you all that they have that fits the category, decent selection of casual and work pants, though no dress pants (ha-ha, unless you count the $375 Versace Stretch Wool Pant, no thanks).

May 19, 2012

Buckle - Impressive selection of 36 inch inseam jeans

Buckle Jeans - VERY big selection of 36 inch inseam jeans.

Wow, I am very impressed with Buckle. Their Website lets you show all Jeans with a specific inseam.
Nice selection, lots on sale starting at $36.49 as of May 20, 2012. Enjoy. Also a very large selection of 38 inch inseam jeans, impressive.